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Big Mouth Strikes Again

Posted by Tony Barrett on October 15, 2007 8:48 AM | 

And there was me thinking Tim Howard was the only Everton player with Tourettes.
Clearly, Alan Stubbs has little control over what comes out of his mouth either, judging by his latest pre-Derby outburst.
The first I knew of it was when I got a text from my bitterest Bluenose mate at 7.30am yesterday.
"Why the f**k doesn't he just keep his mouth shut?" he blasted, before reverting to form and adding "he does Benitez's team talk for him every year and this year the fat Spanish waiter needs it more than ever."
Leaving the abuse of the Liverpool manager to one side, I have to admit that, possibly for the first time in his entire life, my Bluenose mate might actually have a point.

There are some things you just don't do and giving stick out before a derby is pretty high on that list.
All you have to do is keep your head down until the game has gone and then, should you win, you can dish out all the stick going and, should you lose, you carry on keeping your head down.
By all means enjoy the banter - that's what it's all about - but never, ever get all high and mighty, especially if you are a player.
One thing Stubbs didn't say was "If Liverpool are such a big club, why haven't they won the league for 17 years?", that was just the Mail on Sunday's headline which made it look like he'd said it.
But the 87-year-old Stubbs has been around the block enough times to know that if you have a pop at your local rivals in Derby week this is the way the national newspapers will present it.
Fernando Morientes had a similar habit when he was at Anfield. In the days leading up to a game he would be quoted as saying Liverpool were going to do this or that and he would inevitably fall flat on his face when they failed to do so.
Foot in mouth disease is a curse in modern day football and it needs to be eradicated.
Players should be banned from speaking about the opposition in the run up to the big game because all it does is fire them up.
The last time Stubbs did something similar was in the run up to the Anfield derby in the 2004/05 season.
Everton were on course to finish above Liverpool for the first time since 1987 and this gave Stubbs all the ammunition he needed to luanch into a tirade against all things Red which resulted in newspaper headlines like "You're Not Merseyside's Biggest Club Anymore".
One of his quotes was "I know that we haven't done the double over Liverpool for 20 years, but thats going to change this season......we can't wait for the game on Sunday and although it will be tense, we will hold our nerve."
Well, they never as Liverpool stuffed words back down his throat as they recorded a 2-1 victory.
No-one's saying the same thing will happen this weekend, especially not me, but should it then expect a few Evertonians to question Stubbs' latest outburst.
And no doubt the offending article he put his name to is destined to adorn the visitors dressing room at Goodison Park this Saturday.
"The fat Spanish waiter's" team talk is indeed done. Thanks Stubbsy.

Comments (17)

Matthew wrote...

You can't teach a parrot to be quiet.

Posted by: Matthew  | October 15, 2007 5:05 PM

Is this betting wrote...

He didn't really say too much. Just typical footballers nonsense.

Can't see Benitez marching into the dressing room, pinning the article on the wall as saying: "Look what the fat knacker Stubbs has written."

I remember seeing the Everton squad in a pub in Newmarket a couple of years ago. Liverpool were playing in the quarter-finals of the Champions League and only David Weir watched the game.

It showed to me how players are not really interested in other teams and how they play so his comments are as worthless as mine.

Posted by: Is this betting  | October 15, 2007 8:23 PM

paul wrote...

maybe stubbs shouldnt open his mouth before the game but im sure dirk kuyt will be saying what hes gonna do or should i say what he wont do every big game he opens his mouth

Posted by: paul  | October 15, 2007 11:18 PM

andy johnson lookalike wrote...

dont worry about our players and what they say, you lot wanna worry about your own.
dont you lot remember what happened last season against us.
he can say what he likes like the fat spanish waiter did last year after we took 4 points of you lot.

Posted by: andy johnson lookalike  | October 15, 2007 11:49 PM

Jimmy Grant wrote...

^^And we STILL finished above you!!!!!
That whole 'we took 4 points off you lot' is self-explanitory.....you are OVER THE MOON with that....anyway, congrats for beating us in your CUP FINAL last year...different story this year.

Posted by: Jimmy Grant  | October 16, 2007 8:20 AM

istvan kozma wrote...

We may have to accept defeat this weekend as we are facing a squad not exactly littered with internationals who have had two whole weeks to prepare for their biggest game of the year. That's just the way it is with small clubs.

Posted by: istvan kozma  | October 16, 2007 10:38 AM

Anonymous wrote...

There is an 'interesting' debate entitled Are Liverpool a big club? going on with a prize for the best answer written in 200 words or less.

Just requires a one word answer in my opinion.

No.

Posted by: Anonymous  | October 16, 2007 2:02 PM

Towen wrote...

what's wrong with a bit of pre-match goading? it's left some kopites absolutely seething, which is strange considering they keep telling us that we're a small and insignificant club.

Posted by: Towen  | October 16, 2007 5:57 PM

Jim McCabe wrote...

Stubbs may or may not have made the comments attributed to him (I haven't read them, I must admit), but what seems to be happening here is yet another example where a player's agent secures an "interview" for his client in one of the tabloids (not just the nationals, the Daily Post & Echo are involved, too). This is then used as a chance for some old cliches & well-worn phrases to be re-heated for local consumption. As you can imagine, it's almost obligatory in Derby week.
If the player later claims he was quoted out of context, it's nonsense; he & his agent have OKed the piece in the first place.
Nailing critical cuttings to the wall was Bob Paisley's way to gee up his players. Somehow, I don't think Rafa sees the need or appeal for it. Besides, you shouldn't really need an opposing player's quote to motivate you for a Derby game.

Posted by: Jim McCabe  | October 16, 2007 9:09 PM

Greg O'Keeffe wrote...

Istvan. Off the top of my head Everton have at least 11 internationals in and or about the first team.

Posted by: Greg O'Keeffe  | October 17, 2007 8:39 AM

Brock wrote...

I was made up when I saw the article, hopefully it'll get us playing with a bit more passion! While he's at it Rafa should pin up the Andy Johnson Lookalikes comments too.

COME ON YOU RED MEN!!!

Posted by: Brock  | October 17, 2007 8:54 AM

Greg Murphy wrote...

Tony says:

‘One thing Stubbs didn't say was "If Liverpool are such a big club, why haven't they won the league for 17 years?", that was just the Mail on Sunday's headline which made it look like he'd said it.’

Yet the Echo’s version of that same story (by Dominic King) is headlined: “ ‘Title not going to Anfield’ - Alan Stubbs”, even though he said no such thing.

Pots, kettles?

If you read exactly what Stubbs said (and it’s hard for onlookers to guess who he actually gave the quotes to: I mean, was it open fare and did the Mail on Sunday only use them before Dominic King by virtue of the fact that the Echo doesn’t have a Sunday edition?) it’s clear that he actually said (verbatim) several things and the Echo piece could have been headlined many different ways. As could the Mail on Sunday’s.

E.g. “Gerrard best midfielder in world” - Alan Stubbs; or “Benitez has done a good job” - Alan Stubbs; or “We don’t see ourselves as a small club” - Alan Stubbs; or “Derby means as much to Liverpool” - Alan Stubbs; or “Title not going to Stamford Bridge” - Alan Stubbs (or Pride Park for that matter if you wish to apply a total process of elimination to every punter who dares to suggest the title race might be between United and Arsenal).

Instead the Echo with its “ ‘Title not going to Anfield’ - Alan Stubbs” headline has produced a headline like the Mail on Sunday’s which, in Tony’s words, “made it look like he said it”. Fair comment, Tony?

The only thing Stubbs said - unequivocally - was “I do think Manchester United will win it”. Shock, horror! Now, how does that manage to turn itself not only into a shrill quote-mark headline stating “Title not going to Anfield” but also Rafa’s pre-match team talk?

It’s all far, far too sensitive and it’s got to stop for our own sanity: for this all-too-easily-offended “navy blue knickers” mindset, straight out of the Girl Guides, has taken hold on both sides of Stanley Park for a few years now with everything from Mourinho's shush to Joey Barton’s moon being met with howls of outrage. Time to get a grip.


Posted by: Greg Murphy  | October 17, 2007 11:29 AM

pikester wrote...

Quite a lot of Blues appear to read this blog. Paranoid, perhaps?

Anonymous - is it your wish to remain so because your opinion is so ludricously wrong?

Posted by: pikester  | October 17, 2007 12:18 PM

Tony Barrett wrote...

Why does Greg Murphy apply logic to everything?!!
I'd hate to have an argument with you mate, you'd always win!

Posted by: Tony Barrett  | October 17, 2007 2:26 PM

pikester wrote...

yes, well said Greg Murphy. You've raised the bar for football debate. I'm going to have to peruse my Kant again. That's KANT Towen, and not your favourite profanity.

Posted by: pikester  | October 17, 2007 2:43 PM

Dave03 wrote...

Stubbs is an idiot, Wheather he made the comments or not. Blue nosed bitters who keep on about taking 4 points off as us last season jus confirm to the rest of us that this is your cup final. A cup final should be about winning a major trophy ie ISTANBUL 2005, CARDIFF 2006 ETC, something Evertonians have no recollection of. COME ON YOU REDS, lets leave them feeling sad and blue.

Posted by: Dave03  | October 17, 2007 3:29 PM

Brock wrote...

Do as many Evertonians even read Greg O'Keeffe's blogs??

Posted by: Brock  | October 17, 2007 3:57 PM

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