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UEFA smear campaign

Posted by Tony Barrett on June 3, 2007 4:04 PM | 

So it's official then, Liverpool fans are the worst in all of Europe.
Worse than the Italian fans who left the wife of a police officer widowed.
Worse than the French fans who held an anti-semitic rally which turned violent and resulted in the death of an officer from the Gendarmerie.
Worse than the Inter Milan fans who on one occasion launched a scooter from an upper tier of the San Siro and on another caused a Champions League quarter final match to be abandoned by hurling flares on to the pitch.

Worse than the Man United fans who clashed with riot police in Rome.
That's right, in the past four years Liverpool fans have been on the rampage across Europe and have caused more death and destruction than any of these incidents.
Except, of course, they haven't. Only in UEFA's (and the News of the World's) eyes has their behaviour been the worst in the whole continent.
Now what would make UEFA contradict everything we know to be true to come out with such an outlandish and unfounded slur?
Let me think........
Could it perhaps me that they're trying desperately to whitewash what really happened in Athens prior to the European Cup final and their own shambolic organisation?
Far be it from me to suggest it but that is what it seems like.
Apparently, they have a dossier of "25 incidents" over the last four years to prove their point but unless they can come up with incidents where the behaviour of Liverpool supporters is anywhere near as bad as those listed above then I'm afraid their dossier will be shown up to be exactly what it is - a desperately cheap shot in their increasingly nasty smear campaign.
And when their best examples of this apparently disgraceful behaviour come down to a few flags being nicked from the Olympic stadium and tickets being snatched from kids then we really are into the realms of the ridiculous.
Those who snatched tickets before the final have been condemned on this blog and by the majority of Liverpool fans. But are those who did it really worse than those who killed a police officer in Italy? Do me a favour.
What worries me most is if the roles had been reversed and Liverpool fans (or any other English fans for that matter) had killed an officer of the law then we would now be banned from Europe.
That's the way UEFA have operated for years. English fans cause trouble and they're condemned and hit with the most severe sanctions. Italian or Turkish fans cause trouble - and over a long period of time - and they're hit with petty fines.
My second big worry is while UEFA are rewriting history, no-one from Liverpool Football Club has spoken out on favour of the fans.
Now I know it's the closed season and I know everyone's entitled to a holiday but in the age of the internet and mobile phones surely it's not beyond the call of duty for some high ranking LFC official to come out in our defence.
Even from a corporate point of view - and we all know that's the one that matters most in the modern game - the Liverpool "brand" is taking a hiding.
In the absence of anything from the club, every news operation in the country is dining out on UEFA's smears. Sky Sports News - a close relative of the News of the World - keeps on running that same 15 second snatch of footage from Athens which shows about three lads bunking in as if it provides concrete evidence of what UEFA is claiming.
If Liverpool say nothing then UEFA's version of history will become the accepted version of events and it will be used against the club and its fans for evermore. Surely that provides enough motivation to provoke a response. If not, then are we to believe that Liverpool share UEFA's views of the fans?
The ironic thing is, or maybe it's not ironic when you inhabit UEFA's world of double standards, just two years ago we were being praised as Europe's finest fans in the world during the post-Istanbul glow.
That was despite the fact that this damning dossier was by then two years old and we were, as it transpires, well on our way to being named as Europe's worst.
Another irony is that just before the final our friend William Galliard was telling anyone who would listen that there would be no trouble in Athens because there was no recent history of problems involving fans of either Liverpool or Milan.
Now he's got us down as the biggest gang of rapists and pillagers since the Vikings took Europe by storm.
Could it possibly be that now he's rewriting history to cover his own arse?
All these 25 incidents that have got the Liverpool fans marked down as Europe's worst happened before the final in Athens.
So if they are so bad why wasn't this reflected in the organisation and the security for the game.
If you were told that there'd been 25 burglaries in your street then would you leave the front door wide open and turn the alarm off?
And if you did would your insurance company not laugh in your face when you told them you'd been broken into?
UEFA are having it all ways. They're now saying Liverpool fans are the worst in Europe but nothing they said or did in the lead up to the final suggested they believed this then.
The only thing that's changed since is their organisation has been shown up to be a sham and they want the spotlight pointed in another direction.
It's no surprise that they've pointed it at us because they see us as their get out of jail free card and unless someone from Liverpool FC comes out in defence of their fans then they will succeed in getting away with it.

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Comments (19)

Byram crawford wrote...

Just for once i'd like Liverpool fans to acept responsibilty for their actions.

If the disgusting behaviour (yet again) of the Liverpool fans was entirely down to UEFA and nothing whatsoever to do with them then why didnt we see similar scenes from the Milan fans.

To any Liverpool fans reading that was a rhetorical question - I know you're a bit short of grey matter.

Posted by: Byram crawford  | June 3, 2007 7:00 PM

Matt Healey wrote...

Platini and UEFA are an absolute disgrace, how dare they publicly parade our supporters like this!! yes we had a minority who disgraced themselves but to say we are the worst?? outrageous!

I want my club to back the fans, its the least they can do!

Posted by: Matt Healey  | June 3, 2007 9:01 PM

Anonymous wrote...

So Liverpool are the worst fans right?

How many opposing goalies have been struck by flares during a Liverpool match?

How many times have Liverpool had to play behind closed doors due to violence?

How many policeman have been stabbed to death during Liverpool matches?

How many times have you seen Liverpool fans ripping seats out in stadiums?

How many times have you seen Liverpool fans charging police lines?

NONE!!!...yet all these are things that have happened over the past season or so, NONE of them involving Liverpool fans.

Posted by: Anonymous  | June 3, 2007 9:38 PM

Shaun Rafferty-Rooney wrote...

Class article Tony. UEFA are, once again, trying to cover their backs. They are attempting to counter the lawsuits by Liverpool fans.
In the Telegraph on the 23rd of May Platini said that two of the greatest set of fans in the world would be attending the final. Yet now he is, eating his own words. The man is, unfortunately a fool.

Posted by: Shaun Rafferty-Rooney  | June 3, 2007 10:30 PM

sprozzy wrote...

Nail, on, de head!

Blood is boiling that UEFA can just tar us all with some nasty brush.

Went to the Olympic Stadium a couple of years ago for Milan v's Lazio - two feet in gate and hear charge, firebombs and pitch battle 20yards away + riot police! AND chairs getting launched between fans AND...and here's a belter - Nesta (just coming back from injury but also recently transferred from Lazio) goes down with cramp on touchline, cue Lazio Ultras start launching missiles at him while he gets treatment!!! All this after they made monkey noises every time Seedorf got the ball.

Don't know where to start BUT sick and tired of being scapegoat - dignified silence for too long WE need to kick off back and stop them getting away with this!

Posted by: sprozzy  | June 4, 2007 12:36 AM

Bluenose wrote...

Spot on. Uefa should be ashamed of themselves.

Posted by: Bluenose  | June 4, 2007 8:06 AM

Daniel rodgers wrote...

In reply to anonymous:
You and the likes of Les Lawson and the biggest disgrace of all, Rick Parry, will not accept ANY responsibility. Yet people with no tickets endangered the genuine fans who had tickets, by jumping over barricades etc to try and get into the match.
The Chief of Police urged supporters not to travel without tickets and yet the Chief Executive of LFC "warned" that there would be fans travelling without. why did'nt he condemn these so called supporters, who he knew would try and get into the ground at any cost. Accept that LFC supporters were to blame for the scenes shown all over the World. AC Milan never had a problem their end. But no, you Rick and you Les will always blame other people.
EUFA are right in their condemnation of these so called supporters

Posted by: Daniel rodgers  | June 4, 2007 8:30 AM

TaxiClubBlue wrote...

As a Blue do I - no matter how much I'd like to - think LFC fans are the worst in Europe? No, of course not. I don't even think they're in the top 20. Nor do I subscribe to the "no smoke without fire" cumulation of happenstance along the Heysel, Hillsborough (JFT96) and now Athens "it's always Liverpool, though, isn't it?" contiuum of so-called evidence. That said, there is a significant part of my Blue being which is thinking that, OTT as Gaillard is being, it might just make the average Kopite a degree more humble (and I'm not talking in trophy terms here, for you have every right to brag there) in the way you act as a body collective. Mightily impressive though the Kop is on nights like the Chelsea semis, there is a self-annointing, self-appointing view that runs through most Liverpool fans which assumes that, far from being the worst in Europe, you are in fact the "best in the world". No you're not, you have the same problems as the rest of us. You're very glad to accept all the hype and toe-curling OTT reverence that the media bestows on all things Kopite but dare anyone suggest that you're not whiter than white and you are in fact human after all then the din is deafening. Yet this Blue here - and all the rest of us - constantly has to listen to us being branded "bitter", "twsited", "scum of the earth" etc. We also hear from you about how Utd fans are, how Chelsea fans are etc. And it's really, really ungracious. So yeah, defend yourselves against the idiot that Gailliard clearly is, but just think on for an extra moment next season, when normal service is resumed, and fans from the rest of the country are again being judged by the self-appointed jury of Kop morals. And as for the Echo's stance in defending you so vehemently (and good on it) I do reflect that it's only two seasons ago that six moronic Blues on the coach to WBA started abusing local blacks and Asians. It was as isolated an incident as you could get. Yet how did the Echo report it? On the front page, with a headline like "race hate Blues" that's how. And ever since then I've had to endure all the "Blue are yer? Racist then?" slurs from my Kopite brethren around the city. Yeah, Everton have got some total lobotomy candidates following the club and we do have a racist issue with a minority. No doubt. We're not in denial about our issues and we're dealing with them. It seems to me, though, that LFC fans actually are in denial about some of their own issues and many find it very, very difficult to accept anything less than "best fans in the world" as a label. Tell that to the well-occupied emergency plumbers in the Scoreboard End at Old Trafford after the Chelsea FA Semi last year. You know exactly what I mean - even if the Echo managed to turn a blind eye. There's much to admire about LFC and Kopites. But humility isn't one of them.

Posted by: TaxiClubBlue  | June 4, 2007 12:43 PM

E.R. wrote...

Ac Milan had an average attendance of about 8000 more than Liverpool's last season. They got the same amount of tickets for the final.
I've not heard one story of Milan-fans forcing their way into the stadium without a ticket. Not one story of Milan-fans trying to get in with forged tickets. Not one story of Milan-fans stealing tickets from their fellow supporters. How can this be?
Some of you seem to think that if you go and rob a bank, then the bank's at fault, and not the robber. How about start taking responsibilty for "your" actions, and stop blaming everybody else for a change!

Posted by: E.R.  | June 4, 2007 12:44 PM

Terry Casey wrote...

Replying to mr Rogers assessment of the situation.
Every year EUFA give their corporate cronies half of the tickets for the match, Its so the recipients can make a few bob out of the desperate supporters who didn't get one out of the meagre amount of tickets given to the finalist clubs, and may I add also give half of that allocation to their cronies. the fans go to these games without tickets as they know at least 20 thousand will be sold through touts.
Football fans will always get the blame when things go wrong.

Posted by: Terry Casey  | June 4, 2007 12:53 PM

john smith wrote...

DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Black players have had monkey chants follow them wherever they went in Europe, police baton charging fans, refeere's and players getting struck left right and centre by various missiles. How many times have the name of Liverpool fc been mentioned? 25 I don't think so, can anybody actually name 5 incidents. If Hicks and Gillet are the big men they think they are they need to step up and sue UEFA for defemation, drag UEFA through the mud and lastly stick it to Mr William ( I HATE LIVERPOO FC) Gaillard. Just watch them run like squeeling pigs.

Posted by: john smith  | June 4, 2007 1:06 PM

Bouncer wrote...

I had no tickets - no chance of getting them and knew it. Flew to Belgrade and we drove 1200 Km there and 1200 km back just to be with the redmen. 12 Hours sleep in 4 days. It is my inalienable right to be anywhere I want to be in this continent - ticket or no ticket. yet this reprobate from France wants us to be restricted entry to a particular country on the basis of a red shirt. The atmosphere in Athens was great the MIlan fans were great. There were 1000's of red fans in the Milan end - any trouble there - didnt think so. The majority of red fans are ambassadors for that great club and city every where we went Serbia and Macedonia we were feted by the locals - especialy in Belgrade. Platini and Gaillaird should resign and I want UEFA to account for not only Athens but the debacle that was Istanbul too!!! RESIGN!!!!

Posted by: Bouncer  | June 4, 2007 1:19 PM

Mike Lijinsky wrote...

I agree with everything in this article. EUEFA should not be allowed to organise anything more than a Christmas club. They have great experience of staging finals in unsuitable stadia, dating back to the Heysal disaster. Where in this country, can you get into a football match without showing your ticket at a turnstile? Before the final we were warned that we would not be allowed into the stadium with even coins in our pockets and that rigorous searches of bags etc. would be made. We would have to show our tickets at various checkpoints to police and officials. I had a shopping bag with newspapers in it, but at the bottom, I had a battery charger for my mobile phone. At the first checkpoint my bag was checked by a policeman, who didn't go to the bottom and when he asked to see my ticket, I told him it was in my bodybelt inside my trousers. He didn't insist on seeing it and I was not stopped at any other checkpoints,so I kept my ticket hidden until I reached the entry gate, where I showed it. On entry, I couldn't find the section I was supposed to be sitting in, so I walked round the ground as far as I could, asking where section A was and none of the stewards could tell me! I went to the entrance I was at, to be told I had to re enter at gate 34, where I had already entered and people were being told there that the ground was full and they couldn't go in. Luckily I was able to avoid the stewards and get in where I eventually found my seat, but when I wanted to go to the toilet, I discovered that I had to go out of the gate again! I was able to get back in again ,because the stewards had seen me go out,but all this adds up to an organisation which has no idea how to control crowds and their selection of venues for these games clearly doesn't involve scrutiny of security.

Posted by: Mike Lijinsky  | June 4, 2007 1:27 PM

terry wrote...

the only one to be blamed is the uefa.

Posted by: terry  | June 4, 2007 5:47 PM

Ian Kirby. wrote...

Went to the match -got in however feel for the fans that did not.
Bought tickets from a greek who said they where from UEFA ballot-neutral area.
Turned out in the stadium there was no such seat.Seats ended at 39 my seat was
40.No such seat?
Got through all check points and had ticket scanned but no seat in the ground.
Presuming now it to be a fake.
Touts don't tell you it is a fake or they wouldn't make any money!
The policing of the crowd into the ground was very poor-entering one a time through a small entrance way.
Fans became restless and I thought we were going to get crushed.
I arrived at the ground 3 hrs before the game started- yet it took an hour and a half to get in.
Surely there should have been more entry points for fans! It was like 30,000 people trying to enter your house through the front door.
Also 16900 tickets here is the real problem.I travelled from Canada{ex pat} to both games Istanbul & Athens- felt due to all the UEFA family tickets allocated to neutrals the sides of the pitch lacked atmosphere.UEFA needs to look hard in the mirror at the ticket allocation.There was hardly a red or milan fan in the section where I was?
Venues for Euro finals should be no less than 75000.
If Liverpool had played United wondering if Athens/UEFA could have coped with 2 big clubs? The greeks treated us fantastic however the police
got baton happy at the game.
I saw innocent fans hit with batons just because they where in the wrong
place at the wrong time.

Posted by: Ian Kirby.  | June 4, 2007 7:08 PM

Dave Lewis wrote...

I was at the game with a bona fide ticket. I got in with no problem but once inside it was a shambles. Not a steward to be seen anywhere! Contrast with Cardiff. I also heard some unfortunate stories of fans being turned away etc.
Whilst all good Liverpool fans should condemn the people who got in with forged tickets and others who stole tickets from fellow supporters (despicable), I'm afraid in EUFA in we are dealing with one the most bone-headed outfits in the world. They will never admit or recognise any mistakes. For years the have lurched from one bumbling catastrophe to another. I'm sorry to say that nothing will change.

Posted by: Dave Lewis  | June 4, 2007 11:11 PM

tracey wrote...

Why would UEFA having an anti-English agenda affect Liverpool?
As you're always telling us you're Scouse not English.

Posted by: tracey  | June 5, 2007 5:31 AM

Henka wrote...

I have now been reading about this back and forth on several websites. First of all, I would say to those people on here telling us to accept the blame - what the bl..dy h..l are you on about. No matter where you go to a high-profile match there will always be a minority of people causing some sort of trouble - here it was mainly frustrated supporters with valid tickets who couldn't get in ! The story about children getting their tickets stolen is sad - but, in all honesty, don't you think that any thief, supporting any club, could do that ? I think ! That has got NOTHING to do with this at all. Then someone writes, that there were no Milan fans trying to get in without a ticket - aheem, no bl..dy wonder !! They returned some of their allocated tickets - meaning, they couldn't sell all of them - just like in Istanbul ! The fact, that everybody knows, that those sponsor-tickets available, would for a large number go on the black market will naturally make eager fans go for it and try to buy it ! Personally I wouldn't though, as the risk of fake tickets are to high, but don't blame the ones who are dedicated enough to try because they desperately want to follow their team - any team in England would have supporters trying that, but then again, most of you wouldn't know anyway, as you haven't been there (That was bragging :-)) In total, the wide responsibility is with the arrangement - read UEFA. There is only ONE solution to this - more tickets to supporters ! To the fact that some people brand others as 'Scum of the earth' and other things - that's a disgrace and should NOT happen - but - we still have the world's best supporters. YNWA.

Posted by: Henka  | June 5, 2007 9:02 AM

Toffee wrote...

Valued arguement and indeed Gill is a baffoon. Liverpool FC has to take some of the blame oand responibilty. I know reds who went and where ashamed of fellow supporters, steeling tickets through violence from each other forcing a rush at the gates. Ony guy trying to force a rush was wearing the Hillsborough Justice sticker, Now whats all that about. And to say a minority well how many is a minority 1% or 49%. There where thousands in with blag tickets and scores of muggings outside.
Its disgreacefull and the club must take some responsibilty.

Posted by: Toffee  | June 5, 2007 5:01 PM

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